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Pushing on through

Sat Oct 24, 2009, 2:45 PM
  • Mood: Optimism
  • Listening to: Aiden attemping his big escape
  • Reading: About decision making
  • Watching: Baby Einstein
  • Playing: Gem Craft Chapter Zero
  • Eating: Noodles
  • Drinking: Apple Juice
School had a rough start.

Am I really good at this?


Aiden got a terrible cold that turned into Bronchitis (which was happening during my worse days of the start of the year). We took him to the doctor 3 times. For a while he was just miserable. He was pale, weak, and just not himself. It was horrible, but now I am chasing him around the room again. He's not 100% but he's himself again. Constantly pulling himself up, crawling, putting things into hims mouth, and not wanting to sleep life away.

My second online class will be starting soon. I am pretty certain that I will do well on the one I have right now. Its a reflective class, I am great at that.




I have been wondering with my lessons about how to approach parts differently. I think I have a tendency to lean on information. I have been experimenting with "task lists." Which amount to lists of tasks they can choose from that I will hope they will learn something from. I am thinking its what I need for my oil pastel unit, rather then my work packet (still drawing, but I think full drawings would be better)


To those I watch. If you think I gave you a one liner and want me to say more. Just ask. I have been pretty busy and don't spend as much time replying as I use to. But if you appreciate the effort I don't mind using a little.

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  • Current Residence: Madison, MN
  • Interests: Drawing, painting, poetry, reading, horse riding
  • Favourite movie: Sea Biscut
  • Favourite genre of music: Country
  • Favourite artist: Rico Lebrun, Kathe Kollowitz, Franz Marc
  • Favourite style of art: Ink and Charcoal
  • Favourite gaming platform: Wii
  • Personal Quote: Always reach for your dreams, for even if you fail you can at least can say you tried
  • Tools of the Trade: Ink, pastel, vine charcoal, Contee Crayon, Powdered Charcoal

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:iconneoriceisgood:
Thank you for the watch, Nio.
:iconniothedreamer:
I've been reading your comics. I really like tobi and noah, very interesting stories

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see the splendor of that which is real,
but still be memorized by the possibility,
Let love, frustration, and sadness fill you,
and take you away on a journey
:iconneoriceisgood:
Thank you, glad you like em!
:icontesunie:
Hey. Someone linked me over here saying you were an art teacher. I was interested in going for an art teaching position... but I am being indecisive.

What can you tell me about it?
If it helps any, my mom is a teacher, so I know how teaching works and feels. I've done some small things before... I just don't know pay and stuff to make an informed decision. If you want to link me someplace with this info... that would be great!

I just want a job where I can either inspire people to draw, or draw myself. Being an artist is slowly leading to the starving artist situation. So being an art teacher seemed the next best thing.

Sorry of I interrupt you any. I just want to hear someone's ideas from the inside of things. ^_^;

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:iconniothedreamer:
Where do you live? In Minnesota we have Ed post. Which is a great way to look for a teaching position.

I know where I worked I started around 22,000 (some districts can go up to about 30,000)(of course I am not being exact) and I get 500 more per year and 900 more for a lane change (15 credits, 30 credits.. then I am not sure how much a masters counts for)

I would recommend looking at your states standards for art education (or if you have them) I know in Minnesota they have really improved in the last year or so. (Well technically this year).

Then ask yourself, have you worked with kids? What did you think? How do you feel standing in front of people on a regular basis and telling them about your passions (and some people not really sharing it).

Then if you said yes above, what age? I personally do very well with elementary and middle school (though I teach high school - mainly).

At the elementary level, their is more energy and creativity. You do not need to motivate the kids, they generally and typical really want to be in your class. But you have to go over EVERYTHING, such as not using small amounts of glue, or the correct way to hold a scissors. Alot of planning, alot of thinking about pitfalls, and trip ups.

High schoolers however, are capable of a larger range of activities, can be more self-motivated, and do not need to be told everything under the sun. But enthusiasm is not a guarantee and many do not necessarily want to be in your class. (and art has a poor reputation as being a sluff course)


Job prospects are variable. Finding a job if you are willing to move isn't to bad, middle of the road as far as teaching jobs. However many districts are cutting art classes (which you will want to check to see if your state mandates any art education) and many try to get by with part time staff (which means you may need to work between two or three schools). If you plan to stay put, things are difficult and you need to be willing to drop whatever you are doing for a job interview.


I love teaching, I really do. Its not a great paying job, but I find working in a small district that the pay isn't bad (you need to consider cost of living in your choice)(particularly if I could get full time)


Er.... I kind of just rambled away. You still want links? Questions?

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Let the strands of creation capture you,
see the splendor of that which is real,
but still be memorized by the possibility,
Let love, frustration, and sadness fill you,
and take you away on a journey
:icontesunie:
I live in New Hampshire. You know... the state no one seems to know about unless you live here? ^_^ I don't know of anything that makes looking for a job any easier... of course... if we did have it I wouldn't know of it.

That was about what my mom was telling me for a general concept. Still more than I make now... which would be helpful. (Have to consider everything, right?)

Hum... I'll have to ask a college for that I think... unless you know a site that tells me. And no, I'm only looking for it if you are willing to answer. You don't have to answer any more than you want to.

I think I can learn to deal with standing in front of people. I did fine for my effective communication classes. Not a favorite thing to do though.
I've had some expereince with younger kids and teaching them as a volunteer. I've been volunteering unofficially once a week at a preschool. (Mostly visiting my mom, as it's a private school, and it gives the kids something fun on Thursdays.) I love kids. They make me smile, even when they are crying through the store I am working. If I got a job in teaching, I wouldn't be there for the school, but for the kids. I do need money to live, but that is only part of the reason I'm thinking of this.

I seem to do well with any kid not my own age. I'm always encuraging and I don't give up on anyone. Trust me. There are several people on DA I keep having to encurage, as they keep beating up themselves and their art. They aren't figured out that it isn't a matter of better, but mostly falls to different styles. She compairs herself to other people who have been drawing years longer! That's why I did my "Seven Years Later" comparison, so I could show these people that, I wasn't this good when I was their age.

I think I would want High school if I could... depending upon if there is even an art teacher position available when I get there. I've heard of many schools kicking out art, but when I was in High School, you needed one credit in art. (And I haven't moved. I don't want to move if I can help it, but I don't mind moving a little.)

I just don't know if I want to go and try for a Math teacher (something I'm good at is Math) and try to set up art as a backup, or have art as a primary (as that is something I enjoy and have a passion for).

I love art and inspiring other people to draw. That's why I think I would like being an art teacher. I'm a relational person, so I would want to relate to the kids as I teach them. Get to know them for who they are. (Me and my mom are very similar like that.) I know mostly what I'd be walking into... but I don't know if I could handle it is all. People think of me as very immature... even though I think more mature than I act. What can I say? I like having fun.

And no... you didn't ramble! You brought out points I didn't consider and facts I didn't actually know! From what you describ, I would want High School level. I like younger kids, but something just... pulls me to the high school level. If that makes sense.

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:iconniothedreamer:
Just to ask, as its a question you'd develop through your education


What is art education?


You'll find that art educators vary greatly on this matter. I was taught Disciplined Based Art Education. Which focuses on teaching a rounded curriculum (history/culture, aesthetic, criticism, and product). Some art educators don't believe in showing any professional work, and prefer to focus on the creative process itself. Others focus on studying the work of masters (often duplicating it)

I myself think art needs to be about art in its full complexity. I incorporate art philosophy as a way to teaching students that different people judge art differently and to build concepts. I try and link the history and culture behind art to what is made. And I try get students to move beyond the ideas and concepts I teach, and develop their own understandings. I personally believe that not showing any of the great creative exploits of the past, is not a full education, and neither is copying in any form (though it can be good practice). I want to give my students tools, and I want them to use them... I guess is what I am saying.

What do you envision in an art class you teach? This is an advanced question but it addresses something very important, do you have a vision and do you have passion? Because without those, I do not believe you'd like education.

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Let the strands of creation capture you,
see the splendor of that which is real,
but still be memorized by the possibility,
Let love, frustration, and sadness fill you,
and take you away on a journey
:icontesunie:
I know all too well of the differences of art teachers and what people consider to be art. I once had a college art teacher tell me that the definition of art was still life and charcoal. If it wasn't those two, then it wasn't art. Yes. Apparently all those sketches you do in pencil isn't art... or paintings. And yes... he said that to me, directly. How he ended up as an art teacher... the world will never know. ^_^

Well... on to your question, which are very good ones. I see art being anything that takes creative thought, and is you creating something. Painting, drawing, crafts, ceramics, pottery and many other things is art to me. Even writing is a form of art.
I see being an art teacher as being there to help this creative process along, to encourage the students to continue to pursue their creative preference and to help them develop skills in their art form so they can improve.

I'm more interested in seeing them be content and happy with their art, while still being willing to improve on it. I believe criticism is needed for improvement, as an example if the feeling you where aiming for wasn't right, then even if it is a good picture it didn't reach your audience in the way you intended. Can't find that out without a critic. (I know I spelled that wrong.) Criticism is a tool to improving your style, as well as developing a sense of how to get your subject to show.

For history, though I do feel it is important to know of pieces from the past and the greats that did the pieces, I feel it is secondary to the actual drawing process. It's a very nice thing to know about, but isn't a must for all artists. Inspiration is the key, and those old arts can be good for that. Learning those styles can be fun too. (I'd have to say I don't support any copying as an art form. For practice and learning sure, but you shouldn't encourage copying anything exactly. You need to develop your own style. It is always good to be able to create in other styles too though...)

I would also want to point out that art is subjective. What one person sees as art, another person might see as trash. (All through college, I had most of my professors saying my art was trash and would never get me anywhere, yet I'm seeing it everywhere now-a-days. I told them...) It's like a mattress (as I have worked in a mattress store before), what one person might find as very soft, another would see as too hard. Same mattress. Art kinda falls into things the same way. What one person likes, another might hate or not even see as art. Art is completely based upon preference and the individual viewer.

As for any art class I would teach, I could see me encouraging the students to not hate their art (as I did that and he lead only to frustration, and I have to keep telling friends online this). I would want to do a project at the beginning of class and the ending to show the students how much you can improve in time. (And show them works of my own over the time, so they can see it over years of time, instead of months.) I would want to help them to create in whatever their style is, as well as try to help them develop said style. If I could (without encouraging copying), I would also try to encourage them to draw in other styles as well, like realistic, cartoon, semi-realistic, and anything else I stumble across.

I see art education about being more of an encourager than anything else. You need to encourage them to use their art as a tool. Frustrated? Take it into your art. Sad? Draw it out. It can be a powerful tool for yourself. It can also be relaxing and fun. (And for some people I know personally, it is better for them to draw it out than to do it in real life... if you know what I mean.)

I have a belief with art. I believe that anyone can draw, if they have the passion, drive and the will to stick with it. Art isn't something you can pick up in a few moments or months, but it is something you will never stop working on in your entire life. The expression "I can't draw" is untrue. Anyone can, if they want to work on it, and never stop working on it. It should be more of "I don't want to work on art" instead. (I actually wrote a speech with that as the theme! People liked it.)

(I feel I'm missing some points I wanted to mention... but I can't recall them right now. ^_^; )

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